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So... it seems that objections are the following:
Due to "common law marrage" laws any people living together could be concidered married "even str8 roommates" (phobia strikes again)
Religous - (actually a problem in peoples minds ) supporting marrage of "homo's" doesn't mean that any particular "Church" has to support that union. (Certian religions believe in polygamy - yet another issue)
secular - Marrage is designed to protect family units for procreation and the furtharence of society -- and there for benifits should not be given to people who choose not to procreate in the "standard way"
Due to "common law marrage" laws any people living together could be concidered married "even str8 roommates" (phobia strikes again)
Religous - (actually a problem in peoples minds ) supporting marrage of "homo's" doesn't mean that any particular "Church" has to support that union. (Certian religions believe in polygamy - yet another issue)
secular - Marrage is designed to protect family units for procreation and the furtharence of society -- and there for benifits should not be given to people who choose not to procreate in the "standard way"
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Re: What are the Real OBjections?
Sat, August 13, 2005 - 10:38 AMMe, I think the real objections are:
Being straight gives a person a higher status in our society, and so does marriage. Giving status to gays takes power away from those who hold higher status now - and people are always afraid to lose what they have.
The slippery slope theory. People's own internal homosexuality scares them, and they repress it, so they automatically repress homosexual rights.
People are terrified their children will see it's acceptable to be gay. Nobody wants gay kids. Even most GAY people, according to recent polls, would prefer to have straight kids. -
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Re: What are the Real OBjections?
Sat, August 13, 2005 - 5:42 PMIt'd probably be a good idea to slow the birth rate anyway. Earth has already reached carrying capacity. Overpopulation is a HUGE problem. slightly off topic, but just one more reason for the "powerful people" to get their heads out of their asses.
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Re: What are the Real OBjections?
Wed, August 24, 2005 - 2:36 PMMy real objection is this:
Marriage is not a "right," it's a form of privilege.
It's a way of saying that one type of relationship is better than others. It's NOT a way to value diversity since it only allows legal recognition of those relationships which include just two people.
Mainstream Gay folks, instead of working to challenge and dismantle an economic system built on oppression and privilege are trying to find a way to get their own piece of the pie.
What i really wanna know is this:
Just when did fitting into the system of oppression become the primary goal for our movement for GLBTQ Liberation???
i like the Gay Shame bumper stickers which read something like;
We All Deserve the Freedom to BURY
How many people died in Iraq while you were getting married??? -
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Re: What are the Real OBjections?
Thu, August 25, 2005 - 2:22 AMWell, that's what America has always been about... trying to get a piece of the pie, not changing the status quo.
But I think it goes deeper than that... marriage is a cultural idea that we've all absorbed since we were children. It's an idea that's hard to kick and hard not to want because we're all told we should want it. Alternatives? I'm all ears.
'Just when did fitting into the system of oppression become the primary goal for our movement for GLBTQ Liberation???'
- I'd say, maybe around 1985?
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